|...which happens to be where I was born, in June 1944. At a
house called: Avondale just below the top of the hill from the Parish
church. Bill Stevenson, I'm told used to live next
||This is Avondale where my mum brought me up
on her own in those days just after the war and before she met my step
father, Stanley Czajczyk. (pronounced Chai chick)
||This view towards Trawden and
the Parish Church from Winewall
This is the main Parish Church of the village, situated at a junction where the road going to the
right either loops back toward Colne or you can ascend up to join other
minor roads that link the farmsteads with both Lancashire and Yorkshire.
These houses are seen from the
viewpoint of the previous picture. Just around the corner, there used to
be a Co-op where my mum worked and met her future husband, Tom.
building in the village, of course, is the school. A Miss Alton used to be
one of the teachers there, but when?
||The War memorial
records the names of Trawdeners who died in active service for their
My father's name: Tom Baker can be seen on this picture
provided by Sarah Greenwood.
Hollin Hall viewed through some
recently planted trees. Is this to become Trawden Forest?
||The monochrome pictures below were taken in the 1960's when I was
discovering my fascination with photography.
||These farm pictures were taken near Trawden just off the
road to Wycoller.
farmhouse is called Little Laithe Farm. It has now been made into two
dwellings and, I'm told, is very des-res!
Moor Trees, if you'll pardon the pun.
Boulsworth Hill is in the background. The trees are
between Little Laithe Farm and Near Wanless Farm.
A cat on a lonely farmstead!
have to admit that in my time in the Trawden area, I never visited Lumb
Spout, a local beauty spot. These pictures have been taken by Gillian
In July 17th, 2002 it
looked like this:
||July 14th, 2002,
when there was a lot of rain and Wycoller was flooded.
||This was also on the 14th July
|hi there , I
also lived at Avondale 1969 -1971. name Colin Clapham lived up Winewall
until 1953 then up Trawden. I remember the chippy well & you. I still live
in Colne & my mother still in trawden age 92. Great to see your site, brings
mother was evacuated to Trawden during the war. She was taken in by Uncle
Edwin and Aunty Nellie. I am not sure of the surname but I have emailed my
father to find out.
weekend (25/6/2011) is her 80th birthday which we are celebrating
near Harrogate. We hope to visit Trawden on our way home to Manchester on
the Sunday morning.
say thank you for the website
motherís name was Catherine Chadwick if anyone should remember her. Her
sister Norah was also evacuated but not taken in by the same family.
Hello Mike I came across your site
The reason I am emailing you is that
my mothers family come from Trawden. There names are the
fosters, the needham's. I was told that I always called him
uncle Albert lived at lodge home with his wife Nora nee
greenwood, I know that there is a few relatives still in the
area, as my mother Margaret nee temple now lomas has told me.
Do you know of a school registry that I could let my mother know
of to see if she may be able to see if any of her friends are
still living.I have really enjoyed looking through the photos of
the area, As my mum did take us to the area where she was born.
Now uncle albert use to make little
radios for people to use in the area and i belive they had the
small garage just down from lodge home just over the creek ,
river i dont know what you would call it.and my mothe margaret
use to go around and collect sixpence from diffrent people so
they could listen. I wont say to much untill i hear from you...
Gillian Greenwood writes trying to contact
Alan Jay (below) If he could contact me, I will put you both back in
I was just having a quick look at your
Trawden pages with my other half and I read the messages from Alan Jay.
I remember him from Trawden School. He was the same age as my brother
and his sister Susan was in the same class as me.
I wonder if you are still in touch with him
and can pass on a few things to him.
Firstly "Billy Pond" was and still is,
(though the pond is filled in) at the top of Slack Laithe Farm. The
Greenwoods never had that land while there was a pond and I never heard
of a bull being stuck in it. Does Alan know any more about this?
In 1990 there was no-one living in the cave
at Lumb Spout or at any time recently.
The Teacher at Trawden School who had a
disabled baby was not Miss Alton but another teacher who taught the
Miss Alton didn't marry until much later in
She lived in Trawden Hall until her death a
few years ago. Her father bought it in the 1930's or 40's I think and
divided it into two.
Lumb spout was up to the 1950's a well known
beauty spot and people came from the surrounding towns to picnic there.
Now apart from a few ramblers it has been upstaged by places like Alton
There was always a house at Lumb spout. It
was a very old one. I'm not sure when it fell into disrepair or was
demolished but a bungalow was built there which burnt down in 1969.
I wanted to thank you for your site. I visit
it often and take a walk down memory lane.
I was born in Trawden in 1960 and lived
there until 1974 when my dad took a job in the States and we emigrated
to New Hampshire (I still live there).
We lived on Hall Road for most of the time
we lived there (#12 and then #24) and my Grandma and Grandad (Dick and
Eva Inman) lived at #2.
My dad (Robin) used to work at Pioneer in
Barrowford but also had a stint as the landlord of the Rock (keeping his
job at Pioneer)for about a year and a half in 1968 to 69. We lived there
for that time and we were the first ones that tried to fix up the Rock
from rough old place that it was. I remember the ceiling in the kitchen
collapsing just after my grandma walked out of it and she was mad as
hell because it ruined the stew and hard she had just finished making.
I have very fond memories of Trawden and I
am back often as my mum (Mona) and dad moved back once they retired and
now my dad (mum passed away in 06)lives at the top of Heifer Lane in
Colne. Dad has signed the house over to me and my brother (Richard) and
we have made a pact that we will never sell it so our kids over here
will have somewhere to visit.
I remember your mum and dads fish and chip
shop very well as I used to play out with Mark Whiteoak and Victor
Miller who both lived up Winewall (Mark has now moved all the way to
We used to play in the beck and once rode a
dinghy down it in a flood that we had to duck to get under the bridges
I remember playing hare and hounds up
Winewall and up to the rec in Trawden and going camping in Wycoller to
scare the hell out of ourselves waiting for the ghost to show up.
I remember all the little shops that are now
all gone and having a sixpence to spend that my Grandad would slip to me
and our kid and standing there looking at all the glorious toffees in
the glass jars and deciding whether to get a spanish or some rock (or
We used to play football in winter on the
Bursgreen carpark using doors for goals that were around the corner from
I was at Trawden school when Mrs Macin,
Jesse Shaw, Ma Alton and Mr Par were there. My Grandad had a pen over
the fence from the school with a load of hens and 2 donkeys and homing
pigeons. I remember my mum chasing one of the donkeys with a steel
bucket after it had flicked its heels and just missed my head when I was
about 4 years old. She never did catch it.
Returning to Trawden makes me happy to see
how lovely it has become and how they have taken great care upgrade the
properties although I am saddened by the dilution of the human culture
(corner shops gone, central groceries, videocentric culture.. The pubs
don't seem quite as relevant anymore) but I will say..Once a Trawdener
always a Trawdener. It is till home to me and although I have lived here
more than 30 years my heart is still back there.
Thanks again for your site.
||New England, USA
|Hi just had to contact you when i saw your
house Avondale because i used to live there too from 1988 untill i think
when i moved back to bradford my birthplace, I was reading some of your
emails one from shiela was rayson well i was friends with donald john and
keith i was happy to have known them keep up the good work rose
I was amazed at the speed you posted my
I looked further at the site.
Miss Alton was a relative of the people that
owned Trawden Hall.
Everyone was devastated when her baby was
deformed by thalidomide that was 1958.
Little Laithe farm was the site of the
"Billy pond" it was an open cast excavation of "slack". The coal seem
came to the surface and you could dig it and dry it out. We had that on
our farm at lower beardshaw and I earned lots of pocket money.
The "Billy pond" was called so because Jack
Greenwood's bull got caught up in there something Sarah maybe did not
know. As kids the Billy pond was a dumping ground and we used to collect
pram wheels and such as well as tadpoles.
Idris was the person who did Chapel on Lane
house where I lived following Lizzie Holgate. I remember Mrs Pickles
next door lifting her window and shouting to my Mum "Ought Fresh".
Sadly I have no recollection of your home
unless it was one of the pair built on top road to colne where Clive
Smith's dad used to be a grave digger. (Smicca).
Hope this is of interest.
My name's Alan Jay, I was born in Trawden
1954. My Dad worked his way up from an apprentice at Banisters to a
place on the management and we left when artificial fibres killed the
Trawden freedom in those days was fantastic,
we used to build trolleys to go down the tram tracks and climbed
That winter was something else.
The question I want to ask is about lumb
It was always a secret place for our gang,
"the beck patrol".
Briefly someone built a house up there and
it burnt down.
If lumb spout is in the tourist domain what
about the cave?
We were scared as kids that there might have
been bears in it. When I went back in 1990 possibly one of the kendals
was living in it.
I brought my family back to Trawden in 1998
boy had it changed. I couldn't let my kids go in the cave because of the
smell. Our beck was overgrown and Wycoller is a park, we used to play "japs
& commandos" in houses now worth £250,000+.
Please post me on your site so anyone who
remembers me and Trawden School (I think Mrs Makin & Jessie Shaw were
past their "sell by date" but Ted Parr as new headmaster revived and
most passed our 11+ so a lot of us became successful)! Would love to
I have just found your site and i like
it i lived in trawden in 44to 47 at Green Bank then at the Clarion until 50
and went to trawden school when Jessie Shaw was teaching ,i remember the
Dark Lane in 47 i walked from the top of the wall on one side across to the
I also remember the clogger Leonard but
his shop was in a house on Lane House just on from the bus terminus.
Just latched on to the site.
My cousin's Grand daughter and my
self are related to the Bracewells. My Grand dad was Herbert 1876 and
wife Jane Smith 1836.
Herbert's dad was James and wife
I used to visit with my Mum Ada
Laycock nee Bracwell in the 50's. Would be interesting to hear from any
friends or relations.
Keep the excellent work up.
Just wanted to let you know that your web sit
is FANTASTIC. For the past 11years I have lived in Atlanta GA
and my Husband has never seen Trawden where I
grow up. I called my mum who still lives there and she said that your mum and dad had the chip shop at
cotton tree. My Grandma used to take me in there for a treat when I was a littlie girl, I remember them and
the fact it was the best fish & chips around.
Thanks for making time to put a great web
Hi mike, here is one 79yr old Trawdener,
resident in N.Z. (Tauranga) my name was Sheila Smith, married previously
to Donald Rayson. I have 2 sons still in Trawden and 1 in Colne, my
youngest son Stephen is here in N.Z but lives in Auckland. My present
husband & I have lived in N.Z since 1972, my name is now Sheila Davies, my
husband is from Crosshills, we love watching the computer & love your
programme also all the panoramic views etc, around on Skiptonweb etc, N.Z
is a beautiful country we have been so lucky to have made a life here,
though my husband is now getting over a very bad stroke which has left him
unable to do most of the things he enjoyed, but We sit at the computer&
reminisce, over places we still recognize.
Many thanks for your website great work, (I
used to be a weaver at Hollin Hall mill) I shudder when I think about
laying on the floor sweeping under the looms with them still running) &
can still think how different it must be today.
|Mrs Sheila Davies ( Sheila)
||Tauranga, New Zealand
|Hi mike just like to say what a nice surprise
to come across your site I lived in Trawden for many years as a child and
remember playing in that very school yard and going to that church when i
was in the cubs as the cub hall was/is right across from it the memories
came flooding back thanks
|Your correspondent Katrina Hodgson
refers to her ancestors living at Slack and The Little Haig. Does she have
any connection to the TILLOTSON family who resided variously at The
Haig (Hague; Slack (Ponden) Thorne Edge, Corn Close, Barnside.
A long shot, but would you please forward my enquiry to her? My mother was a
|Charles Greenhough (Expatriot Yorkshireman)
|First off, the pictures on your site really
are a marvellous portrayal. Thanks you so much for sharing them.
I noticed your photo of Little Laithe farm near Trawden. Fair Laithe farm in
the same area is where many of my ancestors farmed from the late 1700s to
the late 1800s (also Slack, Well head near Winewall, and Little Hague and
Stone Trough near Kelbrook).
A new Trawden website has been created at
Trawden on Line